|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 15:06:54 GMT -6
The new rumor is that Dayton Moore is using the proposed Atlanta trade as a (fake) device to lure other G.M.'s into overpaying for Dotel.
|
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 15:11:57 GMT -6
The new rumor is that Dayton Moore is using the proposed Atlanta trade as a (fake) device to lure other G.M.'s into overpaying for Dotel. I doubt other GM;s will bite.There are other relievers out there |
|
|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 15:22:39 GMT -6
This according to the K.C. Star: www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/211348.htmlRoyals talking to Braves about trading Dotel for pitcher Kyle Davies By BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star MINNEAPOLIS | The Royals appeared to ready to trade veteran closer Octavio Dotel to the Atlanta Braves on Monday afternoon for right-handed starter Kyle Davies. Neither club has yet offered official confirmation, although several sources indicated a deal was tentatively in place. “It’s inappropriate for me to comment on any deal that may or may not happen,” Royals general manager Dayton Moore said. “When and if there is a deal, we’ll make an announcement.” The holdup appears to be on the Braves’ end and concerns their ability to work out final details on a trade earlier in the day in which they acquired first baseman Mark Teixeira and reliever Ron Mahay from the Rangers for catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, shortstop Elvis Andrus and two pitching prospects. The non-waiver trading deadline is 3 p.m. Tuesday. The Royals continue to discuss trade possibilities with other club in case talks break down with the Braves. The Dodgers, Indians and Mariners have strongly pursued Dotel, who entered Monday’s series opener against the Twins at 2-1 with a 3.91 ERA and 11 saves in 14 opportunities since returning May 22 from the disabled list. Davies, 23, has spent parts of the last three seasons in the Braves’ rotation but has yet to reach their projection of a front-line starter. He was demoted recently to Class AAA Richmond after going 4-8 with a 5.76 ERA in 17 starts. Davies was the Braves’ fourth-round pick in 2001 as a 17-year-old and reached the majors in 2005. He is a combined 14-21 with a 6.15 ERA in 52 games, including 45 starts, in parts of three seasons. |
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 15:24:09 GMT -6
i would hope we could net more then Davies
|
|
|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 15:28:29 GMT -6
Label me incredibly unimpressed at that scenario above (the Davies deal).
|
|
|
|
Post by mtroyals on Jul 30, 2007 18:44:30 GMT -6
I'm a fan if it's Davies/Lillibridge/Acosta, but am deeply [expletive deleted] if it's Dotel/Davies straight up.
|
|
|
|
Post by mtroyals on Jul 30, 2007 18:47:01 GMT -6
|
|
|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 20:07:34 GMT -6
Here's the full summary from MLB Trade Rumors:
Dotel To Atlanta Deal Not Complete?
UPDATE: Word via the Kansas City Star is that the Royals will get Kyle Davies in the deal. The Teixeira trade needs to be finalized first though. Nice job by Dayton Moore. Apparently he preferred Davies over Wladimir Balentien.
UPDATE 2: Based on this MLB.com report and reports from Sports Radio 810, the deal is not complete and Davies for Dotel was simply an offer. Dotel was apparently seen shagging flies in batting practice today.
Interesting development via Ken Rosenthal: the Braves are close to a deal for Royals' closer Octavio Dotel. They apparently have made a better offer than finalists Cleveland and Los Angeles.
Royals GM Dayton Moore knows his way around Atlanta's farm system, of course. He had all kinds of player development roles within the Braves organization. The Braves' top three prospects heading into the season per Baseball America were Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus, and Matt Harrison. With those three out of the picture perhaps Moore is going for outfielder Brandon Jones or first baseman Scott Thorman.
----------------------------------------------------------
I will be deeply disappointed at Dayton Moore if he chooses Davies over a talent like Balentien.
Davies' upside, at this point, is that of a #5 starter. Given his consistent struggles since '05 at the bigs, and the fact that he was literally drafted when the Spice Girls were still together (that's a fact), I would say this trade could be a clunker if it didn't include at least two other legitimate projected-MLB-starter prospects. I see Davies' upside in the bullpen. He could at least take over the sixth/seventh inning roles as everyone there will get promoted.
Memo to Dayton Moore: Trading for middle relievers is not a smart ideas. Let alone questionable middle relievers.
|
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 20:21:15 GMT -6
hopfully someone talked him out of going after Davies and go back and ask about Balentin
|
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 20:38:44 GMT -6
good now I hope LA comes in with a offer of Hu, Abreau or LaRoche or Seattle re offers Balentin
|
|
|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 20:39:57 GMT -6
We really could have used Balentien tonight.
I'm hoping Moore pulls the trigger on a Dotel-for-Balentien-and 'X' Mike Wood-esque prospect.
|
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 20:41:38 GMT -6
yep thank gof the Davies thing at least for now is only an offer not a reported deal like we were lead to believe earlier
|
|
|
|
Post by KC Royals Nation on Jul 30, 2007 21:05:43 GMT -6
Source: Braves.mlb.com
Braves-Royals deal on hold
Octavio Dotel - R - KC - Jul. 30 - 10:18 pm et
The Octavio Dotel deal between the Royals and Braves is no lock to get done, as the Braves are still waiting to finalize the Mark Teixeira trade. For some undisclosed reason, the Braves aren't going to be ready to commit to the deal with the Royals before the Teixeira trade goes through, something that apparently won't happen until Tuesday. It's believed Atlanta will swap Kyle Davies for Dotel, who would likely set up Bob Wickman, but it's still possible Dotel could go elsewhere. The Mariners, Dodgers, Red Sox and Indians were among those interested. Jul. 30 - 10:18 pm et
|
|
|
|
Post by ror1fan on Jul 30, 2007 21:08:51 GMT -6
I sure hope we get more then Davies.
|
|
|
|
Post by gilgameche on Jul 30, 2007 21:10:46 GMT -6
If it's Davies, Lillibridge and a lower level pitching prospect I can live with that but just Davies is not enough
|
|
